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Some of the first New Yorkers that considered Turtle Bay home.

Animal images courtesy www.naturespicsonline.com unless otherwise noted. Image of beaver courtesy stevehdc’s photostream.

 

A Few Practical Considerations

Shoreline Extension: Soil Fill Sources and Sustainability Considerations:

Fill provides a reliable, low-tech method of shoreline expansion that will resist increasing storm surges and sea level rise predicted for the coming century. The preferred source for recreating Turtle Bay would be the ‘spoils’ (soil and rock) form the 2nd Avenue subway excavation now underway, estimated to be over 6.3 million cubic yards when completed. This would be more than enough for the proposed shoreline extension as shown, which will require approximately 4 million cubic yards. All of the soil and rock could be sourced from the subway work, as opposed to being transported off the island at considerable economic and environmental cost as is currently the case. The carbon footprint for the subway could thereby be reduced. Most of the spoils from the subway is clean rock, which provides an excellent base material, highly resistant to water erosion and settlement. As a backup source, dredge material from the Hudson River may be used.

There are a couple of practical considerations for re-centering Turtle Bay at 42nd Street: 1) It will be nearly impossible politically and monetarily to excavate and make functional again the original Turtle Bay which is now buried below the north end of the UN site. 2) The 7 train passes directly below 42nd Street. Loads from fill are minimized or eliminatedby such an alignment.

The proposal still works if the former Con Ed site and the north end of the UN site are not available in any capacity,which is likely. The 60th Street pavilion remains untouched. The south entry portal occurs where the 38th street promenade currently ends. The north portal occurs at 75th Street.

 
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Pre-development Turtle Bay topography as recorded in a Viele Map of 1865.

 
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Turtle Bay viewed from the end of what would be W47th Street ca. 1850.

Image credit: Benson J. Lossing. ‘Pictoral Field Book of the Revolution .’ Vol. II. Chapter XXII,1850. <http://freepages.history.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~wcarr1/Lossing1/Chap54.html#e054>. Accessed Septamber 3, 2011.

 
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Recreation of ecosystem based on Turtle Bay with access via biking and walking trails.

Image background credit: 2011 Digitalglobe

 
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Rendered view from the East River

Image background credit: Al HikesAZ photostream

 
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